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Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.07.23 10:21:50 -
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So many players hate this wardec systems, so many players are forced to dock up for a week to avoid their copr to be permadecced...
...1 week of paid gameplay unable to play...
...only totally stupid game developers can ignore something like that in a subscription based mmo...
...but they seem to ignore it anyway...
They are probably overconfident about players attachment to this game. |
Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2016.07.24 10:14:11 -
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Mortlake wrote:In my experience, if you're not a schlong and you don't draw attentuon to yourself you're unlikely to be decced if your corp remains small. Of course you won't prevent random decs, but the key to not being redecced is to not be a johnson about it vocally and not lose shiny stuff. Don't give people a reason to redec you, basically.
It's only a week, after all.
lol
I would like you to experience a different situation:
You have a job and your boss comes to you and says...
"I will not pay you a week of your monthly job.....but it's only a week after all !"
Same goes for the many players that dock for a week of paid subscription to avoid being blamed if their corps is chain-decced for he lost a ship during wardec....
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Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2016.07.24 11:53:44 -
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Nah, I'm not a victim and I perfectly know it's a game.
I make it more simple then:
Persons like to spend their money, they usually don't like to waste them.
The wardec how it's now forces them to dock up ( or renounce to the social aspect of the game ), so they feel they waste one week of paid subscription money.
I'm a seller in RL, I think it's a basic concept and it's so incredible to me seeing CCP developers being ok with this situation.
Really incredible.
Obviously hisec wargankers will not agree.... |
Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2016.07.28 13:51:42 -
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I can tell you what is the main problem in my opinion.
Several ( not to say a huge amount ) of hisec mining / industrial corps are made of mature ( middle age ) players that simply relax and play to socialize with others, play with market, create goods to sell, things like that.
They don't do and they don't like pvp much, they have some pvpers in the corp but a little amount.
They are sometimes target of Wardeccing pvpers corps for several reasons I don't want to explain.
Wardecs have a duration of one week and can be prolonged ( usually are prolonged if the "target" is profitable )
For that reason members of that corps often suggest corpmates to stay docked or to limit themself on movements and so on during wardecs, afraid wardec to be prolonged if they lose many ships.
Because one week is a long time, and it's 1/4 of a monthly subscription, mature players are annoyed by it because if they leave company they have some disadvantages on their "social" activity and social activity is the main reason that keep them playing eve.
So, some of them they are annoyed but they stay docked and they use Eve as a chat only some others think that chatting only without even the basic ( and lowly lucrative ) activity of mining / hauling is a waste of money, because 1 weeks is 1/4 or subscription.
So they resist some time and after some time they get bored of wardecs and quit game. |
Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2016.07.28 14:23:07 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Lucy Lollipops wrote:Mature player stuff EVE is a PVP game. Period. Full Stop. This is not a game for those who do not like or want to PVP. You do not even have to leave your station to compete (PVP) against other players. Players also don't have to dock up for a week or more when war decced. They have options such as fighting, hiring mercs, or *gasp* moving someplace else.
Maybe you're right.
I would suggest CCP to make Wardecs permanent, or to delete hisec completely (or maybe leaving it as a hisec only for NPC corporations).
They could try it and take the responsability to make the game a full pvp game.
I think that kind of "halfway" situation is so annoying for "social" players and for pvpers also, a "take of responsability" from CCP would put an end to this situation in my opinion.
But they need to be brave to do something so radical....
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Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2016.07.28 14:32:44 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Lucy Lollipops wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Lucy Lollipops wrote:Mature player stuff EVE is a PVP game. Period. Full Stop. This is not a game for those who do not like or want to PVP. You do not even have to leave your station to compete (PVP) against other players. Players also don't have to dock up for a week or more when war decced. They have options such as fighting, hiring mercs, or *gasp* moving someplace else. Maybe you're right. I would suggest CCP to make Wardecs permanent, or to delete hisec completely (or maybe leaving it as a hisec only for NPC corporations). They could try it and take the responsability to make the game a full pvp game. I think that kind of "halfway" situation is so annoying for "social" players and for pvpers also, a "take of responsability" from CCP would put an end to this situation in my opinion. But they need to be brave to do something so radical.... You obviously don't want to play this game, and are expecting CCP to cater to your specific play-style. Please take your "ideas" to the proper forum area where such input is solicited, or better yet, to another game where competition and loss are meaningless.
It sounds quite amazing to me that you firmly say this is a pvp game and if I suggest to make it a pvp game you answer like that!
I don't see any logic but it's only a forum post so not a problem at all for me.... |
Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2016.07.28 14:43:17 -
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Oh, ok.
You don't like my suggestion because you deem I have a "limited definition of pvp"
Clear now, thanks for the explanation. |
Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2016.07.28 16:15:13 -
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I think on the long run Wardecs as they are now, ganking as it is now and maybe other factors will slowly make the players you thing there are not suitable for a pvp game like Eve abandon the game and look for something else.
So I suppose you should be very happy for it, only true (not limited) pvp lovers will be here playing.
I have a different vision and would be happy to have also another kind of players but it's only my personal point of view. |
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